Setting up a demo Grundig system here in the UK

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Christian
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Setting up a demo Grundig system here in the UK

Messaggio: # 15754Messaggio Christian
ven 22 ott 2021, 14:48

I am thinking about going to a UK audio meet up where people put together interesting and different systems to show off their sound.

Now can you think of something for me to show off - I already own a Grundig V1700 and a pair of IMF Super Compacts - I also own a Philips CD100 (TDA 1540 chip).

Should I show off a musical system like this: Philips CD100 - Grundig V1700 - IMF Super Compacts?

I want the UK people to be amazed !!!!

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Messaggio: # 15755Messaggio Christian
ven 22 ott 2021, 14:52

This is what the room looks like for the meet up - to give you an idea of what equipment is used ..

http://simonsnewadventuresinhifi.blogsp ... -2019.html

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ven 22 ott 2021, 16:40

Christian ha scritto:
ven 22 ott 2021, 14:48
I am thinking about going to a UK audio meet up where people put together interesting and different systems to show off their sound.

Now can you think of something for me to show off - I already own a Grundig V1700 and a pair of IMF Super Compacts - I also own a Philips CD100 (TDA 1540 chip).

Should I show off a musical system like this: Philips CD100 - Grundig V1700 - IMF Super Compacts?

I want the UK people to be amazed !!!!
Change the cd100 with a Grundig cd player cd7500 or cd7550 or cd35...and amaze them :D
Massimo

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Messaggio: # 15758Messaggio Christian
ven 22 ott 2021, 16:55

I don't have any of those CD players

Have you heard the CD-100 before?

Why don't you fly over here Massimo and amaze them? It will great to see us British amazed by an old plastic V1700 amplifier :)

Meanwhile I will have to find those suggested CD players and only have 4 weeks to do it in!

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Messaggio: # 15759Messaggio Christian
ven 22 ott 2021, 17:05

Will a Philips CD 303 be a good substitute to the Grundig CD 7500, after all they are the same CD player - or the Philips CD 300 which is the same without the lights.

Also have you seen the venue - it's quite a big room to fill with music.

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Messaggio: # 15760Messaggio Filippo
ven 22 ott 2021, 17:47

Christian ha scritto:
ven 22 ott 2021, 17:05
Will a Philips CD 303 be a good substitute to the Grundig CD 7500, after all they are the same CD player - or the Philips CD 300 which is the same without the lights.
No, They look the same but they are not.

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Messaggio: # 15761Messaggio M.Ambrosini
ven 22 ott 2021, 18:42

Christian ha scritto:
ven 22 ott 2021, 16:55
I don't have any of those CD players

Have you heard the CD-100 before?

Why don't you fly over here Massimo and amaze them? It will great to see us British amazed by an old plastic V1700 amplifier :)

Meanwhile I will have to find those suggested CD players and only have 4 weeks to do it in!
I was one of the first who bought the cd100 in 1982 ... selling (stupidly ... the only mitigating have been the age) all the LPs that I had then collected, to then buy them back a few years later. It would be nice to do a CCI demo in England ... unfortunately the costs of a trip of this kind prevents it. I am sure, however, that you will be able to amaze them by installing the aforementioned system. On the v1700 just remember to let loose the ground screw (the one with two washers) of 1/4 turn and make sure all the other screws are tight.
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Messaggio: # 15765Messaggio Christian
sab 23 ott 2021, 17:37

OK - will the CD-100 be good enough do you think - because I don't have a Grundig CD player.

We need to shock the British !!

Have the seen the size of the venue - will the amp and the speakers be loud enough for the venue?

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Messaggio: # 15766Messaggio davefries
sab 23 ott 2021, 18:03

A pair of Grundig Box 2500a Professional would fit much more better for that kind of installation.

It looks a lot like the place of meeting in Rome (Cinecittà) on 2008:

https://hifiaudio.altervista.org/1-meeting-roma/

The setup was:

- A commercial and very cheap DVD Player modified by Massimo
- Grundig V1700
- Grundig Box 2500a Professional

The result was simply amazing...

David

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Messaggio: # 15768Messaggio Christian
dom 24 ott 2021, 21:53

Well all I can take is the system I have as mentioned above - I hope that will be enough to at least make people think even though it may not make their jaws drop.

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Messaggio: # 15769Messaggio Christian
lun 25 ott 2021, 9:28

Can you remind me what Grundig Turntable you recommend please?

Was it the Grundig PS1020 ??

Any others ?

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lun 25 ott 2021, 10:24

Christian ha scritto:
lun 25 ott 2021, 9:28
Can you remind me what Grundig Turntable you recommend please?

Was it the Grundig PS1020 ??

Any others ?
https://hifiaudio.altervista.org/i-miei-preferiti/
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Messaggio: # 15771Messaggio davefries
lun 25 ott 2021, 10:35

Christian ha scritto:
dom 24 ott 2021, 21:53
Well all I can take is the system I have as mentioned above - I hope that will be enough to at least make people think even though it may not make their jaws drop.
Grundig equipment are easy to find out there, and 4 weeks are enough to spend a few hundred pounds ... :D

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lun 25 ott 2021, 16:47

Christian ha scritto:
ven 22 ott 2021, 14:48
I am thinking about going to a UK audio meet up where people put together interesting and different systems to show off their sound.

Now can you think of something for me to show off - I already own a Grundig V1700 and a pair of IMF Super Compacts - I also own a Philips CD100 (TDA 1540 chip).

Should I show off a musical system like this: Philips CD100 - Grundig V1700 - IMF Super Compacts?

I want the UK people to be amazed !!!!
Can you post a photo of your IMF SC version ?
Massimo

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Messaggio: # 16078Messaggio Christian
ven 26 nov 2021, 12:44

Relevant photos below

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Re: Setting up a demo Grundig system here in the UK

Messaggio: # 16079Messaggio Christian
ven 26 nov 2021, 13:11

What I would like to know is the following ...

When using the Grundig V1700 with the IMF SC how much of the performance - percentage wise - do accessories affect the "overall" performance?

Grundig Interconnects 20% ??
The right speaker cable 10% ??
The right support platform 30% ??
The Age of the Grundig V1700 amplifier 50% ??
let loose the ground screw (the one with two washers) of 1/4 turn 70% ??
The digital source component 30% ??

The above are examples of the information I would like to know so that I can get the best out of the system.

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Messaggio: # 16087Messaggio Filippo
sab 27 nov 2021, 0:24

You can't make these percentages...
I've never done these kinds of calculations.
According to my experience, every optimization can have a small or a little larger effect, but it is the sum of many small tricks that make a great result. You have to try to optimize everything.
Just follow Massimo's advice.
Read his guides well.

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sab 27 nov 2021, 7:28

Filippo ha scritto:
sab 27 nov 2021, 0:24
You can't make these percentages...
I've never done these kinds of calculations.
According to my experience, every optimization can have a small or a little larger effect, but it is the sum of many small tricks that make a great result. You have to try to optimize everything.
Just follow Massimo's advice.
Read his guides well.
Right...read well this before:
https://hifiaudio.altervista.org/lascolto/
Massimo

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Re: Setting up a demo Grundig system here in the UK

Messaggio: # 16107Messaggio Christian
lun 29 nov 2021, 13:39

Thanks - anyway I did send the pictures of the speakers and the Grundig Amplifier as you wanted Massimo as you can see in this post.

Are the speakers OK?

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lun 29 nov 2021, 14:54

Christian ha scritto:
lun 29 nov 2021, 13:39
Thanks - anyway I did send the pictures of the speakers and the Grundig Amplifier as you wanted Massimo as you can see in this post.

Are the speakers OK?
IMF SC first type. Good speakers if in good working condition. Test also the listen with front panel installed...
Massimo

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Messaggio: # 16109Messaggio Christian
lun 29 nov 2021, 15:46

Wow you surprise me Massimo.

Most people say leave the front panel off of speakers generally so you can hear them better.

Also - is the V1700 powerful enough for these speakers - or should I bi-amp them with two V1700s?

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lun 29 nov 2021, 18:48

Christian ha scritto:
lun 29 nov 2021, 15:46
Wow you surprise me Massimo.

Most people say leave the front panel off of speakers generally so you can hear them better.

Also - is the V1700 powerful enough for these speakers - or should I bi-amp them with two V1700s?
bi-amp? :shock: :shock: please no no...
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Messaggio: # 16111Messaggio Christian
mar 30 nov 2021, 10:12

OK I won't - I was trying to put more power into the speakers using two of the best amplifiers.

I assume you think there is enough power from the standard V1700 to drive these speakers OK

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Messaggio: # 16482Messaggio Christian
mer 5 gen 2022, 20:50

Well we never got to do the demo here in the UK - Covid got in the way.

It did allow me to play with the Grundig V1700 over a good length of time though - and I am impressed with the sound considering it looks like a plastic toy.

I was very impressed with how it sounded using the plastic cased Auralic Mini as a streamer.

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Messaggio: # 16486Messaggio myfisite
mer 5 gen 2022, 22:19

The V1700 is a real gem in an unpretentious case.
Marco A.

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