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Hello antobit73,

I'm interrested. Mp for shipping....

I confirm, the 850AP driven by the LT MA10TP had incredible bass in my old 35m2 living room. Today I moved and I have a living room of 31 m2 which communicates with a large opening onto a TV lounge of 12m2 which communicates with a large kitchen, all without doors. The bass is rounder but realistic,...

This also applies to a NAS (network drive).
Guil

Did you try, ear the difference ?
Guil

No, plug the USB key into the USB port of the internet box if it uses Upnp and use music server from the Pioneer remote application which will see the key and its contents.

I agree, when we compare, the CD copied in .wav or aiff is better but otherwise Tidal or Deezer connected directly to the Pionner is very musical and we don't feel any frustration. I find that playing wav or aiff files is even better if the USB key is plugged into the box in music server mode on the...

Thanks Nerone for those informations !
Guil

Hello, how do we cast via UPnP? Is it an app? It's true that the Pioneerremote application is good but it's not very user-friendly like Tidal or Deezer. Thanks in advance for the advice.
Guil

Hi Antonio, what is the difference of sound with the grey one ?

Hello, on Android you have to install Home and cast to the Pioneer, then launch Tidal and the sound is sent to the Pioneer.
Guil

Very interresting...

you have to try the Pioneer n30ae LT which is remarkable.

This afternoon I put natural wool felt pads under the 850AP to replace the synthetic ones I had on hand when I applied this new instruction. The natural side is heard, I suspected, but not at this level. The music has become more touching, the voices more poised, the violin is softer and more nuanc...

This afternoon I put natural wool felt pads under the 850AP to replace the synthetic ones I had on hand when I applied this new instruction. The natural side is heard, I suspected, but not at this level. The music has become more touching, the voices more poised, the violin is softer and more nuance...

Très beau concert de Jacob Collier que l'on trouve sur Tidal ou Deezer.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5 ... DX0YOZUmNM

Guil

After having made two installation errors, namely sticking the felt pads on the stand instead of the speaker and neglecting the path of the speaker cable which was loose and touching itself, I find that the 3D is really there, the timbres of the instruments are magnificent, I am transported to the l...

One Saturday morning I was listening to Beethoven sonatas recorded on a pianoforte, a superb recording in a very reverberant room. My wife had asked me to look at her sewing machine which had thread stuck under the needle. I bring the machine into the living room on the table and disassemble the rub...

Hi Massimo, when using a long triplet with felt pads under to decouple from the hard ground should we add a triplet like in your photo?

Guil

Great concert, and they played there again in 2000.
https://youtu.be/_kFoTxXFqK8

Guil

Happy Easter everyone!
Guil

For the Pioneer n30AE, either use the remote Pioneer application on the smartphone to control the device by choosing the platform of its Tidal, Deezer, Amazon Music or Spotify subscription or Music server which detects all the music files on all the devices connected to the network or USB key direct...

The modified Pioneer n30ae LT is very musical and CD-level according to Massimo. I didn't compare because I don't have a CCI cd player. I use it in streaming with Deezer or Tidal, the smartphone serves as a remote control, it's great.

I have the impression that the left speaker is not really in contact with the ground, the shadow is important.

I couldn't find the photo of Massimo's listening room...

In France 40% increase in December 2022 compared to identical consumption last year.

The CL150s are excellent, however for an optimum result, put a little glue to bind the cable to the cap of the DIN plug. I used neoprene gel, the result is better the next day when the glue has dried.

I start by cleaning with WD40 and then I degrease with 70 degree alcohol. The result was excellent on the old Philips cable, which has regained its openness and very natural midrange.

Hello,

I have 850AP and have noticed that the sound is better if the line point socket of the Grundig cable is not pushed all the way into the terminal block. Let's say it is half. The sound is freer and the timbres more natural. Have you noticed this on 850AP, 1500AP or 2500AP?

Guil

Hi,

To those who use the Pioneer N30ae, which digital filter did you select in the options menu? Did you leave the default setting or did you change it? What do you think ?

Guil

Hello, I checked my 850APs and on one side the butyl was peeling off at the top, probably because the 850 is in the sun for 1 hour every day and that peeled off the butyl. Otherwise partly off at some places on 2. I'm leaning over to firmly hold the grid and I find that the resulting sound is very s...

Hi, When I received I just plugged in the old Philips rca cable and I eared it is a little stiffer and flatter than the GBC. I identified the right direction of the Philips cable, but the listening was more relaxed with the GBC, yet the timbre of the Philips is more natural, but the sound seems less...

I got my MA10TP updated by Massimo, each instrument is well positioned in the orchestra, it sings better, it's even more musical because some songs that I didn't like very much now please me and I listen to them in entire. In summary, merging the registers is even better and the system disappears. I...

Joyeuses Pâques à tous !

The Pioneer N30AE is really easy to use with the Pioneer remote app on Playstore or Apple Store. Also try to change the digital filter in the options menu, by default it is the middle one which is configured in the factory, I find that the first provides a more natural listening.
Guil.

Ok thanks Massimo for that clarification, I think the stucco on the floor or on the 850AP doesn't sound the same. I will test, but I understand that the sponge stays in place anyway.
Guil.

I understand on this post that for a passive speaker like the 850AP it's either the sponge between the Bose stand and the speaker or the 4 pieces of stucco on the ground to stop the Bose, but not the 2 solutions ?? It's confirmed ? The post relating to the subject of the optimization of the Bose sup...

OK understood. I meant the woofer mask screws, I never removed it so never touched the woofer screws. The mask is therefore only a cover so I imagine that these screws must be tightened in an average way.

Thank you Massimo, while doing the tests I have the impression that the midrange and treble loudspeakers must be less tight than the bass. If the treble and mids are tight like the bass, the sound becomes flat, it's striking on the piano, on the other hand it's more precise but perhaps too much.

Guil

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Hello,

Do you tighten the speaker screws from time to time. I had done this about two years ago and had to loosen it up a bit as the sound had become a little twitchy.

Thanks
Guil

Maybe I was too tight. The question is does it loosen with vibration?

Hello,

Do you tighten the speaker screws from time to time. I had done this about two years ago and had to loosen it up a bit as the sound had become a little twitchy.

Thanks
Guil

Hello, I use 850AP on Bose stands in case C in 35 m2 and the only slight frustrations felt are when I listen very loudly to large orchestral music or rock, otherwise it's very good because the timbres and the articulation of these speakers are surprising. I will try many 2500AP to see...

The Marantz is pretty

Tidal has a good catalog and the sound reproduction is very good when the N30AEis directly connected, if the playback is done in low resolution you have to update the firmware in the option menu because they have modified the code and access is disrupted in some countries if the player is not up to ...

The experience with the N30AE is extraordinary with a Tidal or Deezer type subscription because the N30AE connects directly and you don't need to cast with the Google Cast protocol and the sound is better. I recorded CDs in Wav format and I read them on a USB key directly plugged into the front of t...

The grid I understand, but the badges, apart from the identification and the aesthetic aspect, does it affect the sound?
Guil

Hello, I plugged in the Norstone CL150 this afternoon and find it rather better than I remember. I had replaced it with the black Grundig and at the time the Grundig seemed to me to be very superior. Today the Norstone sounds a little rounder but more global. The Grundig sounds more "monitor". I mus...

Hello, I plugged in the Norstone CL150 this afternoon and find it rather better than I remember. I had replaced it with the black Grundig and at the time the Grundig seemed to me to be very superior. Today the Norstone sounds a little rounder but more global. The Grundig sounds more "monitor". I mus...

Thanks, very interresting !

Thank you Massimo, I found this disc in streaming on the Pioneer, what delicacy in the touch of the piano! The interpretation is superb and the recording is natural. The end of ballad n°2 is very beautiful, the mastery of playing with the left hand provides a very beautiful image, it is a story well...

Must-listen: Beethoven's piano concertos, conducted by Carlo Maria Giulini, Vienna Symphony Orchestra, live recording. Concerto No. 3 is sublime. Deutsche Grammophon published in 2002 an 8cd set with works from Beethoven, Brahms, Chopin, Debussy, Mozart, Schubert, Schumann. You have to have it.

music will speak louder than words

I put on velvet curtains and I find that it cushions well and I think their thickness and density is superior to others.
Guil

Buon Natale a tutti !
Guil

I am really surprised, every time I turn on my system, by this fluidity of the 850APs, I do not ask myself questions the music settles in the room in less than 5 minutes while the Pioneer n30ae LT and the MA10TP are cold. I feel the music as in a concert hall and the very lively side of the restitut...

Hello Massimo,

What are the differences in terms of sound reproduction between system A with MA10TP and 850AP and system B with MA10TPX with Activ20 LT?

Guil

Hello,

I have American, Japanese, and French speakers in the upstairs attic while the system is in the downstairs living room, and one day when I moved them I noticed that the influence of storage was very strong.

Guil

Hello,

Very interesting report, I am interested in a description or photo of the wooden bases which replaced the BF4.

Guil

Hello,

Other opinions, other conclusions ?

The doubt between the two possibilities is evocative !

The Norstone is worse than the black Grundig on the 850AP with MA10TP. Grundig is more fluid with a more expressive, more spontaneous medium, immediate listening emotion.

Guil

Since I have the Tidal subscription, I have never listened to so much music and discovered new interpretations of works that I already know. I started to transfer CDs to hard drive, and it's true the quality is a bit better than streaming, but only when you compare (Pioneer N30AE). If you only liste...

Hello freddy54,

Do you still use streaming with the Pioneer, if yes which service ?
Guil

Yes, with my 850AP it is much better !

Hello, I listened for a while with the Norstone CL150 and when I found Grundig cables I found the bandwidth to be wider and the midrange much more expressive.

Guil

Hello, I tested both solutions and I prefer the amp and the source plugged into the power strip with four felt pads glued. The lower medium is richer and the general balance seems more homogeneous to me.

Guil

Hello Alfredo, thanks for answering. I know this mode because I was using a Chromecast before buying the Pioneer N30AE. For my ears, the chromecast mode with the Pioneer is less dynamic and free than the Pioneer directly connected to Tidal. In the Cci system with MA10TP, the difference is important ...

Hello everyone, I have been using a Pioneer N30AE LT since January, 99% on TIDAL HIFI and it is absolutely superb, where it was. Indeed a week ago, I noticed a rather mediocre sound and I saw the audio flow was in AAC 96 kbps, much worse than the FLAC 16 bits or 24 bits 192 Khz. After checking all s...

This experience allowed me to make speaker placement adjustments to have a better soundstage. Let me explain: I had tested the resonator on trio-type jazz pieces and I remember that the double bass and the drums had moved back in the image and the bass seemed more free. After Massimo's verdict I tri...

I tried a long time ago with another system and I remember that the sound was inflated on the bass and too smooth on the midrange. Real solid wood is better and the sound is that much better.

... and I turn up the volume too !

Placed on the edge on a felt strip seems to me for the moment the best configuration. Very free and spatial, very natural with a gain in the bass.

Guil

Hello, I received mine. I placed it towards the back of the room, why? Well this is the only place where there was a power outlet available. It is therefore far from the system, about 5 to 6 meters. First impression: a relaxed listening, a sound more structured and soft at the same time. After 30 mi...

Hello, at the moment i'm listening to "NOTTURNO - OTTORINO RESPIGHI" played on harp by Magdalena Hoffmann, and must admit that on a well-tuned CCI system it is magnificent. The dynamics are breathtaking, this instrument is at the same time very fine and delicate and very ample with more bass than th...

I used the Chromecast for 3 years with V35, V20 and Receiver 30. The sound is very nice, it lacks dynamics and energy but it's consistent. When I plugged it into the MA10TP it was very bland and flat.

All you have to do is connect the hard drive to the usb port of the Internet box and activate Music Server on the application that controls the N30AE on the smartphone and you can access the entire content of the disc. The difference with the direct connection on the N30AE is obvious, more energy a...

All you have to do is connect the hard drive to the usb port of the Internet box and activate Music Server on the application that controls the N30AE on the smartphone and you can access the entire content of the disc. The difference with the direct connection on the N30AE is obvious, more energy an...

I use a basic rca cable and Norstone CL150 for the speakers. The equipement is put on an old solid wood chest.

No I keep this configuration because I prefer to have a full CCI system and the result is "magnifique" !

My system is: LT MA10TP integrated amplifier, Pioneer N30AE LT modified, Grundig 850a PRO on Bose stands.

Guillaume

Can anyone recommend a good streamer with external DAC as a music source that sounds very good ? I only stream Internet Radio Stations and Tidal Thank you and hello everyone this is my first post. Hi Christian, I use since two weeks a Pioneer N30AE modified LT by Massimo. For the moment I listen Ti...

It is impossible because a stiffer stand absorbs less energy from the speakers.... Which as a result emit with more energy.... I just wanted to indicate that I felt the music filled the listening room less. You have surely heard better than me, and I am wary of certainties, I rely on my perception.

I used blue tack and I ear it is different, but I don't know if it is better, perhaps the blue tack is not the best way ? Timbre is better but less good vibrations in my room and less energy. What kind of "stucco" do you use ? Ciao Guillaume Less energy is impossible.... 🙂😉 it is my perception at h...

I used blue tack and I ear it is different, but I don't know if it is better, perhaps the blue tack is not the best way ? Timbre is better but less good vibrations in my room and less energy. What kind of "stucco" do you use ?

Ciao
Guillaume

Il mio set up di musica liquida è "duplice". Da un lato uso un Music Server Pioneer N30AE, modificato LT, comodo essenzialmente per ascoltare musica in flac su TIDAL, meno comodo per ascoltare i files su hd, dall'altro un sistema più complesso basato su PD software e convertitore, per ascoltare i 2...

Disassembly is done by first unscrewing the logo from the top. Second step: unscrewing this strange plastic wing nut.

Ciao a tutti, ho notato da tempo che non inserendo completamente le prese rca o din sull'ingresso dell'amplificatore o del ricevitore si ottiene un suono più libero e dinamico. Questo vale anche per la presa 220v nella ciabatta. Anche i timbri sono più naturali. Spingo completamente e mi ritiro molt...

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